Mark Williams was in the middle of the action when Zynga initially started cranking out megahit games and the company's IT organization had to find the resources to cope with exponential growth. Hear the experience he and his team had as they moved to Amazon, scaled on Amazon, then moved many of their workloads back to a new private cloud.

In today's OpenStack Podcast Mark talks about the process, the roadblocks, and the incentives he had to use to make it all happen. He also talks about his new role as CTO at Redapt, about why OpenStack could stand to be a lot more boring than it currently is, and why communication and openness are critical for new IT initiatives to succeed.

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